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Guys. Guys, there is drama going on. So much that I'm aware of it in my little corner of nowhere where I hide and write silly things about librarians and twinks who can't cook and gamblers and such. I'm not going to call people out, because I don't do that unless I am very, very sure of what I am saying and absolutely certain that the people involved deserve it (and that I am ready for the backlash/shitstorm that always follows), but I have been reading it all and wow, wow. Once again the internet has forgotten that it is run by Real People.

You know, Real People. The ones who read and review stories and who create websites and yes, who also write books. Those are all Things That Are Done By Real People. (And if I need to define Real People *sigh*, then let's say that they are living, breathing people, just like you or me, with responsibilities and jobs and tissue in their pocket for their allergies and sisters who bug them about getting out of the house more and some tasty tequila and lime in the pantry calling their name. Real People...with feelings. If you prick them, do they not bleed?).

The thing with this cray internets of ours is that though it *never forgets*, it also allows for a *lot* of anonymity. And it's a hell of a lot easier to do things we wouldn't do in real life when we aren't looking someone in the eye when we do it. That includes things on both sides of this particular fence, things from potentially plagiarizing (or at least possibly just being unoriginal) to flat out publicly accusing someone of something without knowing all the facts, legal or otherwise.

It's a lot like reviews to me. Years ago when I used to review, the rule was that you *could* go intensely negative if you truly felt the book deserved it, but you had to remember when you did that it had a lasting impact on both you and the author reviewed. I'm not talking sales. I'm taking about what putting out (sometimes unwarranted) negativity does to your name and reputation and what it does to someone who may or may not have written a shitty book (or done a shitty thing) but who might have learned and developed and gotten *better* if the review had been less about being funny and harsh and more about the book itself. Sure, you can call the main characters douchebags if they are douchebags, but what exactly are you adding to the debate, to the creative process, to the community you are a part of? Not to mention that the author's reaction should always be in the back of your mind. (And if I have to explain *that* I will, but honestly, *sigh* again? That means- Did you say that to shock them? To make others laugh? Or did you really feel that, and if so, why? Please 'xplain.)

Acts, words said, thoughts posted, these things all have repercussions. You might not feel them right away in imaginary, anonymous internet-land, but they exist. Stolen ideas (whether this is the case or not) hurt readers and cost authors their audience. They create a sense of betrayal that affects not just the accused or the guilty but everyone around them, including everyone in their field. And public accusations (baseless or not) are not things to be taken lightly and certainly aren't something to be done in the heat of the moment. They can ruin careers and lives and if not that, then at the very least they can ruin someone's joy in something that *should* be joyous.

So yeah, my thoughts, such as they are. A drop in a vast ocean. OR, tl;dr--the next time you are going to write or post something on the internet, imagine you are looking in the face of the person you are writing about, and imagine they are looking back at you.

Date: 2012-02-27 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plainapple.livejournal.com
I don't know what this is about but I'm pretty sure that this post was my idea and you stole it.

Date: 2012-02-27 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-cooper.livejournal.com
hahaha

Yea I stole it. And made it better! Ga-zing! Amirite?


I mean, stealing is wrong and bad. I would never. *cough*

Date: 2012-02-27 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plainapple.livejournal.com
"Stealing" ideas is a writers progative. Look at Shakespeare, he got all his plays from Greek myth and history. Also, JK Rowling didn't even invent the idea of wizards OR schools OR wizard schools, even. Of course there's a fine line between inspiration and, I don't know what it would be... dickbagery? But in general its the way a storyteller tells the story, not just the concept itself that's important - you know what I mean?

Of course copying verbatim is always wrong and illegal but there's a reason you can't copyright names or general themes.

Date: 2012-02-27 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-cooper.livejournal.com
Yeah sometimes it's more in that gray area of maybe not illegal, but definitely dickbaggery. I have no idea what it is in this instance since I haven't read the book in question and I don't plan to, but you know, there are only what, 6? 2? stories to tell anyway.

Btw, I just thinking the other day why don't people say Dick Bag instead of Douche Bag. I mean, if they can suck "Eat a bag of dicks" or "Suck a bag of dicks" then obviously, there should be dick bags for that. Right?

Libel? Anyone?

Date: 2012-02-27 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm not sure why accusations (if false...always the important part) of plagarism aren't followed swiftly by libel suits.

I can enjoy a work...even if it's derivative, and I can hate a book without attacking the author. I'm just not sure why anyone would need to cater to the kids that snickered in the background of every school cafeteria. Yes, you have the freedom to say whatever you want, but you should have the compassion to realize that cruel words hurt (and don't add anything to the discourse).

I read your works and blogs often, but I rarely comment. This post really spoke to me though, and I wanted to say Thank You! More people need to be reminded that there is a HUGE difference between critique and cruelty.

So...Thank you!!!!!!

Kristi P

Re: Libel? Anyone?

Date: 2012-02-27 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-cooper.livejournal.com
If false...that is the crucial part, isn't it? Maybe some people just aren't litigious? I know I'm not. I'm more of an avoid the spotlight type.

More people need to be reminded that there is a HUGE difference between critique and cruelty. No, thank you for this. This was the point I was trying to make and I think it got lost in there or people just didn't want to understand it. :)

Date: 2012-02-27 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlasta.livejournal.com
EMAIL ME THE SPECIFICS. I NEED TO KNOW.

Date: 2012-02-27 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-cooper.livejournal.com
Oh my god, girl. I shall! Swifter than arrows!

Date: 2012-02-27 07:54 pm (UTC)

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